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Summary and plans for my line of supercar models.

I have first announced plans for a line of supercar models back in 2009, and I have not been too successful about making it happen. As of the half of 2013, I have built only 3 models that fall into that category, and none of which can be actually called a proper LEGO supercar, as they all lack e.g. gearboxes. I have plans to change it, as explained below.

My two last supercar models have been built around RC motors and RC units, resulting in decent speed and performance at the cost of weight and internal space. I have realized that this direction leads to a dead end, as exemplified by my Peugeot 908 HDi FAP model, which doesn’t even belong in the supercar category. On one hand the speeds nearing 20 km/h are simply dangerous for small LEGO models, as the potential for a significant damage to parts is severe, and so is the probability of crashes and their consequences. I have broken at least 10 universal joints while developing Peugeot’s propulsion system, and even without it the whole drivetrain is a subject to a significant wear, and the resulting model is practically impossible to drive anywhere but in a wide open space. On the other hand, all my high-speed RC models had to have their bodywork and interior drastically simplified to minimize the weight and to allow space for 4 motors and 2 RC units. In the end, there are only so many ways to fit all these elements into a relatively small car model.

I have now been working for a while on a project that would make building supercars much easier and faster: an universal, adjustable chassis. Such a chassis will allow to build practically any traditional car within certain scale, with possible adjustments to suspension and gearbox modules, as well as to the wheelbase.

Such a chassis will abandon the RC elements completely, focusing on the Power Functions system instead. I believe the PF system has grown much more useful recently, with the addition of L motors and V2 IR receivers, which together form a powerful propulsion system, much easier to fit in a chassis than the bulky XL motor is. The focus is no longer on speed, but on a reasonably small size and compact build with many functions. The resulting models should be highly detailed and functional, while agile but not as fast as to exclude driving indoors.

Such a chassis will also require a degree of standarization between models, most importantly when it comes to scale and wheels. I have decided to rely primarily on two types of wheels shown below: the smaller 56×34 wheel (left) which will be basis for what I call Scale A (models roughly 27 studs wide), and the bigger 62×46 wheel (right) which will be used for Scale B (models roughly 32 studs wide). All my supercar models so far have been using the bigger wheels, and thus belong in Scale B, but I have come to consider this scale too large for most models. I believe that with the new, compact PF system’s elements it’s perfectly possible to build a fully functional supercar in Scale A, while the smaller wheels look more accurate in most cases, come with a number of covers, and four of them are 200 grams lighter than four larger wheels, which is a serious saving and can be put to a good use.

Other than wheels, the models will also share similar gearboxes. I have been experimenting with several advanced gearboxes recently, all of them sequential and remote-controlled, and most of them featuring 3 to 4 speeds, as more speeds have little practical use in my opinion, while making the gearboxes much larger, and the whole drivetrain much more complex. There are many other possible functions to include, such as e.g. realistic brakes with which I’ve been experimenting recently. I also intend to use piston engines in most models, independent suspension systems, as well as to put a lot of effort into creating realistic lights. LEGO has recently introduced round 1×1 tiles, already available in several trans-colored variants, which helps to create realistic light, and can be complemented by trans-colored bars and tiles.

Finally, given the required compactness of the chassis and the size of existing LEGO power supplies, I’m seriously considering using a custom-built power supply. The only goal here is to get the same performance from a much smaller unit, but it’s too early to be more specific yet – practical tests are still ahead of me.

Despite the aforementioned standarization, I see plenty of ways to make each model different. Even with similar chassis, they can be built with focus on various points: look, functionality, authenticity, some particular elements of performance. The bodies alone can mix studless and studfull parts, or rely on one system only.  The chassis will surely be entirely studless, and it’s already under development in the first “standarized” model: the Ferrari Enzo. Once finished, the model will provide a better insight into how different the following models can be. As a matter of fact, due to their consistency – the body color and the wheel covers for example – I’m  going to build a number of Ferraris, but also experiment with other brands too. The most probable projects are outlined below.

Ferrari Enzo

Ferrari Enzo will surely sport a red, panel-built body, rear wheel drive, and at least 3-speed sequential gearbox and Scale A. I didn’t like the official 2005 LEGO Technic Ferrari Enzo, and I intend to improve over it. I want to focus heavily on authenticity, re-creating, if possible, the difference in sizes between front and rear tires. Most of all, the model has to be small and look good. The functionality can be limited, which is true to the somewhat Spartan real Enzo.

Ferrari La Ferrari

To answer the obvious question: yes, I would like to build the Ferrari La Ferrari, but right now the model is very fresh and the documentation on it is insufficient. There are no reliable blueprints, for example. All in all, it would make a nice model for next year or later, almost surely in Scale A.

Ferrari Modena

Ferrari Fiorano

I have also been thinking of building a Ferrari model with a folding roof. Here, I’m hesitating between Ferrari Modena and Fiorano. Again, the latter exists as an official LEGO Technic set, which I think can be improved upon. It is not unthinkable that I will eventually build both, in Scale A.

Lamborghini Reventon

The Lamborghini Reventon, which I’ve been planning for a couple of years now, will be a very different model. I want it to be larger, very complex mechanically, with the NXT unit at its heart. I’m hoping I can fit it with adjustable suspension, seats and other elements, and make the NXT unit remember several “driving profiles” to switch between. It’s quite possible that it will utilize the NXT motors for the most basic functions, along with a number of PF elements controlled by the NXT unit using the IR Link. The Reventon is almost a certain candidate for combined studless&studfull body in dark grey, in Scale B.

Lamborghini Aventador

As far as Lamborghinis go, I’m strongly tempted to try and build the famous Aventador. It would be definitely Scale A model, as small and light as possible, with panel-built body. I only accept the orange body variant, so it’s possible that it will have to wait until LEGO releases more types of orange panels, as there are few available at the moment. Modelling its silhouette and lights would be an interesting challenge, but in any case this is a model for next year or later.

Koenigsegg CCR

Koenigsegg CCR is another model that has been planned for quite a while. I wanted to try a studfull body on it initially, but now I’m more inclined towards a panel-built one. Having seen a yellow model recently, I want to make it orange. Just like the Aventador, it may have to wait until orange panels are more widely available, but it’s more likely to have a partially studfull, or eventually red body. Most likely Scale A model, with rear wheel drive, it will be quite challenging to make various parts of its body open up just like in the real car.

Audi R8

Audi R8 is a very recent addition to my plans. I believe its body shape can be modeled very well with studfull pieces. Small, Scale A model with all-wheels drive, it will most likely rely on a studless body frame with studfull pieces forming separate panels connected around it to form the body. It’s also a very interesting car when it comes to lights, and I want to model these as accurately as possible. A V8 or V10 piston engine will be included, depending on how much space is available inside. The look will be very important for this model, while its small size should ensure a decent performance.

I hope these plans look promising and will come to swifter realization that they did previously. Finishing the Enzo will most likely be the defining point of the whole plan – it will show how useful the chassis really is, and how versatile it is for different cars. I hope you won’t be frustrated by revealing of these plans –  I felt it necessary to share them, as I intend to drastically change the direction my supercar models have been following up until now. These model’s won’t be finished fast, nor follow one another immediately, but they surely will be eventually finished, and built with as much skill as I can possibly exert. The Enzo and Reventon are most likely to get finished this year, followed most probably by the R8.

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  1. Jet
    September 15th, 2013 at 09:31 | #1

    Why an Audi quattro when things like Peugeot 205 Turbo 16s were much cooler. (and when they came the opposition just couldnt keep up)

  2. Sariel
    September 2nd, 2013 at 08:08 | #2

    Not really.

  3. GoldenEagle1768
    September 2nd, 2013 at 00:03 | #3

    Hey, did you ever think of building Rallye-cars, for example older ones like the first Audi Quattro or newer ones like Ken Block’s Gymkhana Ford Fiesta?

  4. Jet
    August 22nd, 2013 at 12:25 | #4

    why not make something smaller I mean there is nothing wrong with big ludicrous supercars but what about some rally cars particularly the group b ones being still immensely powerful and fast considering they were from the 80s

  5. Sariel
    July 4th, 2013 at 13:53 | #5

    @John Ferraz
    I don’t see why a transverse gearbox would be a problem. When saying tiptronic you probably mean sequential – it’s possible, just like the H-pattern, both have pros and cons of their own.

  6. July 4th, 2013 at 13:40 | #6

    Is a 1: 10 transverse gearbox with a front wheel drive at all possible? Can the ‘h’ pattern on the gear changer be maintained? Or is a ” tiptronic” system a better way to change the gears in this transverse configuration ?
    The resent VW Vision concept car might be a good start to test this out?

  7. Russell
    July 2nd, 2013 at 00:16 | #7

    I seriously can’t wait for the R8, or the La Ferrari. Mostly the R8.

  8. Trey
    June 29th, 2013 at 05:36 | #8

    You never dissapoint me. I hope to be like you one day.

  9. Sariel
    June 17th, 2013 at 07:44 | #9

    Raczej nie.

  10. Piotrek
    June 17th, 2013 at 06:20 | #10

    Ale jakąś instrukcję wstawisz?

  11. Sariel
    June 15th, 2013 at 15:41 | #11

    Nie sądzę. Ostatnio LEGO spędziło 10 miesięcy nad zatwierdzeniem prostego modelu z może 300 części. Szkoda mi czasu na coś, co i tak odrzucą.

  12. Piotrek
    June 15th, 2013 at 14:00 | #12

    Skoro masz zamiar korzystać z nowych silników lego,
    to może zaczniesz wrzucać swoje modele na cuusoo?

  13. Sariel
    June 12th, 2013 at 09:17 | #13

    I know. I have them.

  14. RaiderZulu
    June 12th, 2013 at 05:09 | #14

    Those larger wheels are 81 mm in diameter Sariel.

  15. adviser
    May 29th, 2013 at 10:06 | #15

    i would build all of them if possible.

  16. jimmy3
    May 27th, 2013 at 22:09 | #16

    That’s what I wanted to hear! A LEGO Lamborghini Aventador! Nether the less a Reventon! Great ideas Paul!

  17. May 26th, 2013 at 15:34 | #17

    Your supercars are amazing hope to see more 😀

  18. Sariel
    May 24th, 2013 at 09:18 | #18

    A nie mogę budować tego i tego?

  19. Dejw
    May 23rd, 2013 at 22:28 | #19

    A nie wolisz sprzętu budowlanego?

  20. Sariel
    May 22nd, 2013 at 19:33 | #20

    Thanks, I’ll do my best.

  21. zee
    May 22nd, 2013 at 19:02 | #21

    Sariel, I belive your Peugeot model will be epic as all other model you did. Could you please, just please make sure you do as much as possible photos of Peugeot car while building it. That’d be great present for me.

  22. May 22nd, 2013 at 13:13 | #22

    Please consider the Bugatti Veyron:


    kind greetings, Gerhard

  23. Sariel
    May 22nd, 2013 at 12:45 | #23

    Wait, I just found your Ferrari on YouTube. Very nice, indeed. It was just difficult for me to identify what model are you talking about since you didn’t post any link.

  24. brunojj1
    May 22nd, 2013 at 12:17 | #24

    Ok, sorry, you don`t have to notice every kind of amateur for sure. But I really appreciate your ideas for “A” scale Power Functions supercars because this is maybe a gap in the market with very few both good performance and good looking cars existing till now – so we will go for it. Especially I look forward for a Ferrari built by you, maybe with a folding roof and a bunch of functions of course!

  25. Luc2000
    May 22nd, 2013 at 10:10 | #25


    It would be difficult, but definitely not impossible 😉

  26. Sariel
    May 22nd, 2013 at 09:17 | #26

    I haven’t seen your Ferrari and I don’t know your models.

  27. Shlomi Gondabi
    May 22nd, 2013 at 08:25 | #27

    Please consider making also instructions for the super cars!

  28. brunojj1
    May 22nd, 2013 at 07:58 | #28

    Hey Paul,

    be honest: my Spider Ferrari isn`t too bad – where could you get the inspiration from ;-)?

    Lets make a challenge: I will build the LaFerrari too. What time will you need?

    I am a sportsman and chess player and I believe that you are the best of all builders who inspires all of us. Keep on!

    Best greetings

  29. David Luders
    May 22nd, 2013 at 03:40 | #29

    Your future Supercars sound wonderful! Of course, you could consider your excellent Mercedes-Benz 540 Special Roadster model ( http://sariel.pl/2012/12/mercedes-benz-540k-special-roadster/ ) to be a “supercar” of its era. I like how you mix Technic and “System” elements in your models, plus the occasional Lego Mindstorms intelligent brick.

  30. Sariel
    May 21st, 2013 at 21:43 | #30

    I know Scaglietti very well. To me it looks like uglier version of the Fiorano, no offense.

  31. gabry
    May 21st, 2013 at 21:16 | #31

    Italy is a nice place to live. I live few km away from Modena and the Ferrari factory of Maranello! Haven’t you considered the Ferrari Scaglietti? It’s one of my favourite supercars and it has a very interesting design, unaffected, without too many details, and this car is available in blue

  32. Sariel
    May 21st, 2013 at 19:30 | #32

    I have given a very close look to complex suspension systems, Ackermann steering included, and I do not see any decisive advantages they would provide for a model of that size and weight. It’s also my belief that they are more useful in faster models. Still, if there’s a room in some model, why not? I think there’s some room especially for playing with front suspension of the RWD models.
    As for the EV3, right now it seems quite expensive and I feel I have just started playing with the NXT. So I think I’ll wait, especially as the experience with Mindstorms suggests that a new product needs to be a while out in the market to mature.

    I’m afraid the 8041 wheels are to small. It would be very difficult to fit a driven independent suspension in a model so narrow, and many original details would be just too small to recreate.

  33. May 21st, 2013 at 19:18 | #33

    I like this “new” direction, with the focus on functions rather than speed.

    Did you ever think of building even smaller scale cars, with 8041 wheels?
    I personally think this is a great scale, providing just enough space to put in a decent amount of functions, but small enough to be challenging to build.

  34. May 21st, 2013 at 19:02 | #34

    Sounds exciting! You have certainly thought out your options. It is somewhat reminiscent of the Modular Platform System (MPS) by Sheepo. Do you plan to incorporate more advanced suspension features like camber, caster, and toe? How about Ackerman steering geometry?

    It sounds like one end of your scale (the big end) will feature a very complex NXT based model. Any thoughts on using the EV3? I think it would be interesting to do a model at the other end of the scale that doesn’t have any motorization at all.

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